Skepticism meets reflection when Bill invites Jay Shetty to share about a life that’s spanned the silence of a Vedic monastery and the spotlight of Hollywood. Jay explains how rising at 4 a.m. for cold showers, living under strict celibacy, and sleeping on the floor shaped his views on attachment and purpose. Bill probes everything from traditional therapy to modern dating, pushing Jay to clarify how one remains “spiritual” when fame and success come calling.

They trade stories of long-term relationships, debate generational “softness,” and dig into whether the real mind-bender might be a vitamin D deficiency rather than any cosmic quest. There’s warmth in discovering their shared friendship with Arianna Huffington. The result is a candid conversation that balances humor, curiosity, and a surprising overlap of worldviews—one part cynicism, one part monk-like reflection.

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