On this episode Bill welcomes Turning Point USA founder and conservative firebrand Charlie Kirk. The two sit down for a long‑form, surprisingly cordial debate that roams from identity politics to faith, personal freedom, and the state of American institutions. They spar over marijuana, public safety, the limits of adult choice—topics that segue into bigger clashes over homelessness policy, whether safe‑injection sites help or hurt cities, and if Ivy League schools ought to be razed and rebuilt from scratch. A lot of ground is covered in this thoughtful back and forth, plenty of laughter and even a spit-take or two.

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