On this episode, Bill sits down with New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd for a wide-ranging, personal chat about her new book “Notorious"—a collection of her incisive profiles of major cultural and political figures—and why she once went viral for a botched edible experience in Denver. The two swap stories about growing up in Washington, D.C. (her father was a detective), how “woke” culture may have dampened the fun on the left, and what still draws voters to Donald Trump’s brash humor. Maureen recalls the times she’s gone toe-to-toe with politicians across the aisle, and she and Bill debate whether Democrats need a showman of their own. Throughout it all, they reflect on the challenges of bridging America’s political divide, the strange alliances they’ve formed in the process, and how a good dinner party could be the real key to bringing people back together.

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